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The Road to UNBOUND: Failure, Grit, and the Stories Behind the Hosts

Hosts: Chris Carolan, Casey Hawkins, George B. Thomas, Rob Jones, Kyle Jepson

June 10, 2026

This week the Road to UNBOUND pulls off the highway and gets personal. Rob, Casey, Chris, George, and Kyle trade the news cycle for their own stories — George B. Thomas on going from dropout to million-dollar agency owner, Casey Hawkins on what marathon training and old math-class struggles taught her about grit, and the whole table on why embracing failure is the actual curriculum. The throughline is the thing the hype keeps missing: AI can't replace hard work, and it can't shortcut the failure you learn from. Along the way they get into vulnerability as the unlock for the best moments, building psychologically safe rooms, in-person versus online learning and what behavior data really measures, and how to move past the fear of automation instead of pretending it away. Entertaining first, honest throughout — five hosts talking around HubSpot, not about it, on the road to Boston.

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